100 Emails, 20 Dates An SF girl's systematic quest to end her singlehood

18Mar/100

Email 22: Time often flies too fast

OKCupid has a feature called "QuickMatch," where you scroll through people's pictures and summaries of their profiles, then you rate each person however many stars out of 5. If someone rates you 4 or 5 stars, OKCupid sends you an email showing 9 photos and says, "One of these guys just rated you 4 or 5 stars." You login to QuickMatch, and that person will appear in your queue. If you rate that person 4 or 5 stars, OKCupid sends you both an email.

I've gotten pretty good at telling who rated me: the oldest guy of the 9. But for one email I got in late January, there was a photo of a super cute guy. I thought, "Ooh. I wonder..." The hot guy had picked me! After we found out we were mutual matches, he sent me an email.

Date: Jan. 25, 2010
Subject: between becauses

Cute pics and mutual 4-star stuff aside, somewhere between Stevie Wonder, The Big Lebowski, the mandolin and wicked smahht, there is a good reason to at least say a real hello. Yes? Good times/places for you? I work for myself, so I'm flexible. You?

Hi

I love first emails like this. Friendly, casual, inviting, and--the thing I like most--he avoids the extensive emailing b.s. and cuts straight to the "let's meet up." His profile was the same way. He mentioned that he had a teenager, which sort of shocked me, but he seemed like a good, grounded, interesting person. I wrote him back the next day.

Date: Jan. 26, 2010
Subject: between becauses

I'm in. Thursday at 7 (or after) or Saturday afternoon work for me. I've been wanting to try the Rosamunde's on Mission. Though coffee or a drink would be fun, too.

The Stevie Wonder thing stuck out to me, too. He's so ridiculously good.

To be fair, I actually left off the last period. And that last line reads really awkward to me now. Eh.

He wrote back two days later, Friday, to say he was heading out of town that weekend and suggested we could get together the following week. I generally only suggest an actual date once, then if that doesn't work for the guy, I let him step up. If he's not interested, he won't suggest a date. I could have written back something short, like, "Have a great weekend. Next week sounds fine," just to show that I was still interested. But I didn't.

J. wrote me back a little over a week later:

Date: Feb. 5, 2010
Subject: between becauses

Geez, this life goes fast.
Okay, for reals.
You around tomorrow (Sat) daytime at all? Nice little walk and hello?
If not then, what's next week for you? Pretty much any day works for me up until 6ish. Open eves as of now are Tues and Thurs.
Let's just see.

I still liked the friendly, casual tone. The scheduling thing seemed a bit of a challenge, though. I find it a bit perplexing that people who work from home don't realize that we office workers can't just skip out early to meet someone for a date. Also, my phone had been stolen, and it had been a few weeks since I synced my phone calendar with my computer. I knew there were two appointments I was missing, but I wasn't sure how many others there would be.

Date: Feb. 7, 2010
Subject: between becauses

Hey, J.--

Seriously. This week and weekend flew by.

I love the idea of a walk. I think I'm free Thursday after work. (I don't mean to be flaky, but my phone--which has my calendar--was stolen a few weeks ago, and I just realized I have a couple of appointments that I never synced to my computer...)

Lunch might be a safer bet, though. Would you be up for meeting at the Ferry Building? I could do any day but Thursday.

I never heard back. He might have read my lack of response after he said he was going away as a lack of interest. Maybe next time that happens I'll write a quick, short, and sweet response.

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16Mar/103

Time for a check-in

When I started this blog, I figured I'd give the whole process a year. That seemed like a reasonable amount of time to go through the whole 100 emails, 20 dates conceit. I had no idea I'd still be doing this two years and a couple of months later. And quite frankly, now that I've realized it, it's hard not to be a little depressed.

But I also didn't consider how much learning I had to do. I mean, I'll be honest, I am terrible at this. Like really bad. And far worse than I thought I was. It took a good solid year or so to figure out how bad I was at this and to encourage myself to start at the beginning. Here are some of the key lessons I've learned:

  1. Guys will take risks if they know the risk is worth taking. It's a woman's job to let guys they like know that they should take the risk. That's why women need to make eye contact with a guy an average of 13 times before they're likely to come over. If a woman doesn't flirt, how is the guy supposed to know he's not in the friend zone? Ladies, if you want a guy to ask for your number, you need to signal to him that you want to see him again, possibly by saying something cryptic like, "This was fun. We should hang out sometime."
  2. If you're not in a relationship with the guy, he can't reject you. One of the great lessons of online dating is that you have to deal with "rejection" a lot. Guys flake on you. You flake on guys. They lose interest mysteriously. You lose interest mysteriously. It happens--a lot. If the guy never got to know you, he's not rejecting you because he never had the chance to get to know you. This is a really good thing to keep in mind as you try to cultivate the "NEXT!" mindset in your entire dating life.
  3. I really hate online dating. I'm kind of an odd bird, so I make terrible first impressions. But if I meet a guy, and there's a spark, I can help fan that into a flame in person. Then, my follow-up emails are hilarious and awesome. But I'm terrible at starting with email. It's like a doubly bad first impression for me. And then, it's so much work just to meet someone. And my age gives me an unfair disadvantage because guys date younger. It's demoralizing. But I'm giving it one last shot.
  4. If you're single, you need to figure out what makes you hot, then work it. Everyone has something about them they should flaunt. If you don't, work on your arms. Those are fairly easy to turn into a hot little gun show. Calves, too. When I figured it out, it helped me dress more flatteringly (ex.: straight skirts, not full skirts). Knowing that at least one part of me was sexy helped me feel sexy all over. Also, Pilates helps.
  5. Trust your gut. I think I'm terribly at reading signals, but I'm really not. I just believe that I'm not. When I look back on mistakes that I've made, I know that I knew what was going on. I just didn't want to admit it. I don't fool myself nearly as often anymore.
  6. More girls (meaning me) should take a more "guy" approach to dating. No, male readers, I don't mean that girls should sleep with you on the first date. I mean that for many guys, happiness is the absence of unhappiness. For many women, unhappiness can sometimes be the absence of happiness. There's an emotional zone halfway or so between happiness and unhappiness where guys are still happy but women are kind of meh. I need to stop thinking of meh as a negative, and if I feel meh about a guy, I should focus on the positive and give him another chance.
  7. Courage. It's not just Dan Rather's temporary and poorly chosen sign-off, it's also a good dating mantra: nothing ventured, nothing gained. Often, in dating, you just need to take a (calculated) risk or else you won't get anywhere.
  8. There are a lot of really cool, interesting, and nice guys in San Francisco. I always knew how awesome my bros and other guy friends are, but reading back through my posts, it really struck me how many nice guys I've met over the past two plus years. I'm pretty fortunate.

I'm sure there are more, but this is a start, at least. Onward and upward.

15Mar/105

Email 21: Email fail

Image by Chris Griffith. CC 2.0.

In my attempt to use data to improve my dating luck, I redid my OKCupid profile. I changed my username to something that's more of a characteristic than an interest, my profile picture is now more of a flirty-face shot (though it is low-res. I need to take a new one of me making a flirty face and doing something interesting), and I redid my profile. I couldn't find good data on what makes a good profile, so I posted something and edited and edited and edited. I'm still not happy with what I have, but I'm working on it.

The site is matching me to different people this time around, and the first guy was a 34-year-old New Zealander with a laugh-out-loud profile. In his photos, he included a hand-drawn map of Australia and New Zealand, pointing out the difference. I loved his sense of humor. He seemed like someone who would be a lot of fun. He had a particularly funny thread through his profile about his love-hate relationship with "Desperate Housewives," even though he doesn't own a TV. His profile said that he responds selectively to email, so I figured, what do I have to lose.

Date: Mar. 11, 2010
Subject: Bad TV

Hello!

I had to laugh out loud--well, at several things in your profile, really--but especially at the Desperate Housewives reference. I had a boyfriend who got me into that show, which always seemed a bit wrong. I had to wait until the season hiatus after we broke up to break free of it. It helped that the writing went to hell around the same time. Not owning a TV helps keep me from falling off the wagon.

The map was a nice touch. Ah, geography. I regularly have to consult an atlas (and a thesaurus) for my job. Atlases can be humbling.

As soon as I sent it, I realized I had failed at several of the rules in the "good first email" analysis. Yes, I was literate and didn't comment on his physical appearance (FYI, he's cute), but I failed at pretty much everything else.

  1. As a salutation, "Hello" actually decreases your chances of getting a response. "How's it going," "What's up," or "Howdy" significantly increases the chance of a response.
  2. I not only didn't really bring up one of his specific interests, but I brought up one of his specified disinterests. He doesn't watch TV. FAIL! Sure, I mention that I don't either, but it comes at the end of a paragraph about TV that includes a reference to an ex. (Yes, his DH story included an ex, but still...) Also, I kind of insult the show! What the hell was I thinking?
  3. I didn't use any cues that I had read his profile, things like "You mention," "good taste," and "noticed that." I do call out two things about his profile, but they're not really the right things.
  4. It's a really boring email. OK, to be fair, "writing interesting emails" isn't one of the "rules," but only because boringness is like porn--you know it when you see it. Or perhaps, fall asleep to it.

All in all, not my best work, but a valuable lesson in email writing. Next!

13Mar/100

Email 20, Date 8: A twist of fate

After one of my shows recently, a cute guy came up as I was taking down the mics to buy a CD. As I crouched down to give it to him, I noticed he had a really nice, genuine smile. He looked right into my eyes as we were talking and said he really enjoyed the show. I introduced myself. "I'm X.," he said, and walked away. "I like your glasses," I called, trying to extend the conversation. "I like your playing," he replied, over one shoulder, and walked away.

Another missed opportunity, I thought. Two days later, I found two emails waiting for me on OKCupid (in my profile, I say that I'm looking for a partner-in-crime and that I'm not averse to getting into a little trouble now and again):

Date: Feb. 22, 2010
Subject: trouble maker

hey, so i'm down for a bit of trouble now and again. well, not robbing 7-11's or anything like that but at least so good natured fun. you seem fun and cute and love music- all awesome things.

i hope you're enjoying this gorgeous sunny day before the rain returns.

A great first email, right? Followed by:

Date: Feb. 23, 2010 – 11:31am
Subject: so n.

I swear i am not stalking you! but i serendipitously happened to go out last night with some friends and there you were up on the stage! sounding awesome if i do say so.

we spoke briefly afterwards when i bought a cd and you commented on my glasses. I'm listening to it now as i sit inside watching the rain and debating a cup of coffee.

i don't believe in fate or predestination but it is quite odd that i emailed you yesterday out of the blue then ran into you last night. of course this town is pretty small also.

anyway, perhaps you aren't creeped out and will write me back. if not, alas.

I was so excited! A second chance! And from his profile, he'd done some really interesting things in his life: filmmaking, building a cabin. There were so many things I wanted to ask about. I broke one of my cardinal rules and took a minute or two at work to write back:

Date: Feb. 24
Subject: so n.

This is kind of awesome.

I don't know that I believe in fate, but it is nice to think that (good) things happen for a (good) reason.

I'd ask you lots of questions about all the interesting things in your profile, but I feel like we've already gotten the first awkward conversation out of the way, so why not just meet up? Are you around this weekend? Maybe Saturday or Sunday afternoon?

He responded the next day, Thursday, suggesting that we wait until closer to the weekend to figure out when and where to meet up. I found that a little curious (how much closer to the weekend did we need to me?), but he did follow up with several great suggestions of places to meet: all small, interesting, and quirky.

We met up for pie on Sunday afternoon, about two hours before I had a dinner reservation with friends. I got there first, and settled down with a ginger lemonade and the New York Times. He came in, and we went up to get ourselves some pie. I noticed he was missing a tooth and wondered if it would be rude to ask how that happened.

He seemed a bit distracted, and I could detect a faint odor--like he'd been running around all day. Turns out he had. "I've been going since 6:30 a.m.," he said. He and his brother had become obsessed with soccer, and they watched a match at an Irish bar that morning.

"Oh, you're into soccer?" I said, excited to have something to contribute. I told him about this story I had been working on, in which we traced the geopolitical factors (type of government, former colonizing power, whether a country is a member of OPEC) that correlate with winning national soccer teams. It's one of my favorite stories that I've worked on. I was thrilled to find someone I could talk to about it.

My enthusiasm was met with a blank stare. He made a polite comment about the piece, then the conversation came to a halt. I asked him about something else in his profile. He answered the question, I commented on it, hoping to engage him in further conversation, and...nothing.

It was one of those maddening conversations between two genuinely interesting people that just doesn't go anywhere. We had zero chemistry. "Tant pis," I thought to myself as I walked to meet my friends for dinner. "Next!"

Postscript: X. texted me the next day to see if I'd like to hang out again. I said I had decided to take some time off from dating for a bit, and told him it was nice meeting him. Maybe I'll see him around. If I knew an earthier, artier girl, I would fix her up with him.

Editor's Note: Due to an accounting error, I goofed on the date number when I did the URL for this page.

28Jul/093

Email 19, Date 6: For real this time, I shouldn't date an engineer

Even though I had completely given up on dating in a fit of extreme frustration, I kept my OKCupid profile up. I didn't check it, I didn't even get on the site, but I figured, if someone saw it and felt inspired to email me....

N. apparently did, and he responded to my "The most private thing I'm willing to admit here" section of my profile: I have a deep, abiding affection for classic country and honky-tonk (Johnny Cash, Loretta Lynn, George Strait) -- but I don’t expect you to share my love of music that relies so heavily on tortured metaphors, melodramatic vocals, and awesomely twangy guitars.

Date: 7/14/09
Subject: Hiya

Well, it's the usual story, I guess: your "profile photo" caught my eye, your other photos held my attention pretty strongly, and what you wrote about yourself sounds great, too (yeah, I do eventually get beyond the pictures). I'm definitely a collection of opposites, too, esp., now that I think about it, the ones you mention. I like your style and attitude, too, *and* you're pretty damn cute!

For what it's worth, amongst my music choices I've got a decent little collection of country music. I've got, in alphabetical order: The Carter Family, J.Cash, P.Cline, S.Earle, Lyman Enloe, Wanda Jackson [sort of counts?], Little Feat [ditto], L.Skynyrd [ditto again], T.Wynett, as well as stuff like Lucinda Williams, John Prine, Pete Droge,.... I say "hurray" for tortured metaphors! (Just not all-day/everyday, like anything else...)

So here I am. I'm intrigued -- write back if you are, too.

I was intrigued. I had seen his profile before. I may have even emailed him before. In one of his photos he was really hot: slightly chiseled features, eyes that sparkled with life, and attractively nerdy glasses. In his two other photos he was... Well, he looked 47. His age was the only reason I could think of that I hadn't emailed him. But at 47, he's young for the guys who are drawn to me online. So I, with absolutely nothing to lose, wrote a ridiculous email back, riffing on the following items:

  • He wrote me on Bastille Day.
  • He included a link to a Belgian website in his profile.
  • Belgians and French have a rivalry.
  • He admitted in his profile that he doesn't want to date people who live outside of SF.
  • I genuinely admired his honesty about that, while admitting that admitting to that made me feel shallow.
  • He described himself as quirky and brainy in his profile.

In his next email, he suggested we meet for a drink. In mine, I admitted that my only night free was about five days later (tonight). We made plans, exchanged a few more emails, and met up.

One could describe my attitude toward this date as pessimistic but open. One could also describe it as petulantly reluctant. In reality, it started off as the latter, then when I realized it would be cowardly to cancel, it became the former.

We didn't click. At all. But when he said that he was an engineer, that clicked.

I have nothing against engineers--two of my bros (who I love dearly) work as software engineers--but I can't date people who are engineers. My dad was an engineer. Two of my ex-boyfriends were engineers--no, actually, three. It's a way of thinking, of viewing the world as problems with single, definite solutions, that does not work well with my world-view that things are complex, that there are usually multiple good solutions, that not everything needs to be fixed. And perhaps most importantly, that I am not a problem that needs to be "fixed."

As I observed how N. took in information and processed it through an engineering mindset, I kept thinking, "This is excruciating."

To be fair, the conversation was not anywhere near excruciating. He was a really nice guy who had done a lot of really interesting things in his life. What is excruciating is that I know that I can't be with an engineer. I've learned that lesson. And yet I keep attracting them. And in times like this, when I am in desperate need of an ego boost, I entertain the thought of dating them.

So the next phase in 100 Emails, 20 Dates will be identifying things like this: patterns that have gotten me to where I am today--36 and single with zero prospects. The next phase will be fixing those problems. Expect many bumps in the road.

31May/090

Email 18.1, Date 5: He’s probably not that into me

After posting about the guy who seemed happy to keep our online conversation strictly online, I worked up the nerve to see if his schedule had opened up. He responded, asking me about some things I had mentioned in my last email. He also said that he'd be in touch on Wednesday to let me know when he was free.

Ball's in his court, I thought. If he doesn't email me, then fine, he's clearly just not that into me. Wednesday night, I logged on to OKCupid -- no email. So I checked out his profile, wondering if I was really that into him.

He was online.

Now, on Match or whatever, it doesn't matter. You could completely stalk someone, and they wouldn't really know. But OKCupid pops up a little note: "[username] just checked out your profile." Caught in the act. I panicked, hastily closed the window as if that made a difference, and felt somewhat foolish.

The next day, I had an email from him. We made plans to meet for lunch, joked around a bit, and sent longer, more frequent emails to each other over the course of the next couple of days. At one point, he wrote, "You are a fantastic writer!" (He mentioned in his profile how words are important to him.)

We met for lunch, and it was immediately comfortable talking to him, though the conversation still had some of the first-meeting nervousness. He makes great eye contact. We dove right into a fascinating discussion on print and online media, ordered tacos, and talked some more. The conversation did peter out a bit, but my "I can only do an hour" lunch turned into about an hour and a half. I walked back with him to BART, and he gave me a nice hug goodbye, saying, "I had a great time. I'd love to come see your band sometime."

That, friends, is the kiss of death. If he was interested in me, he probably would have said, "Let's do this again," or something. It's sort of the musician's equivalent of hearing, "I'll call you" -- an implied continuation of the relationship without any plan to actually follow through. Wanting to be one of 50 or so people in an audience when I'm onstage at a gig that is likely to be weeks away felt like a romantic brush-off. But who knows? He does like music.

I sent him an email before I headed out of town for Memorial Day weekend reiterating that I had a fun time. We've exchanged a few emails since, but I don't really get the feeling that he's that into me. He seems like a nice guy, though.

And for those who think I'm prejudiced against short guys, he's 5'8" and I would definitely meet up with him again. So there. :)

10May/096

Email 18: The audacity of hope

A few weeks ago, I got a great email on OKCupid:

Date: 4/6/09
Subject: A million things

That's what I thought of after reading your profile. Seriously. And i don't usually say that. It was really fun to go from category to category and enjoy each one. Here are a few of the ones we had in common:

dog person
good napper
couch curler
head/hair masseuse
sarcastic
warm-hearted (handed too, but that can come in.. er, well, handy)
cocktail connoisseur
Wilco, Welch, and Iron and Wine
coffee
group dynamics
Mr. Cash

Anyway, I know compatibility means more than matching lists, but I did enjoy seeing so much in common. Plus, as a lawyer, I can cover you if you happen to deviate from your law-abiding ways. :)

I was more excited about this than anyone else who's emailed me so far. He sounds smart, interesting, and quirky -- three key traits. His profile was great: engagingly written without feeling at all forced. He likes dive bars, knows where to find good deli sandwiches in the Bay Area (this is an enviable skill), and enjoys mini-golf and cupcakes from a bakery in my part of town. In the last section of the profile, the "You Should Message Me If" part, he wrote: "You've traveled back in time with an important message from my future self, stock tips, or the key to saving humanity from forthcoming zombie/robot/alien invasion. Or you'd just like to have coffee sometime." Funny.

Unfortunately, two factors converged in the days after he sent me this really nice email: the weather was AMAZING here (a rare occurrence) and I was sick of online dating. I wrote back to him about a week later.

Date: 4/12/09 11:23 AM
Subject: A million things

Hi, J.--

So sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. I haven't been able to stand staying inside on the computer when the weather has been this nice (right now, I'm eying the shaft of sunlight that is just creeping into my backyard. When there's a bit more, I'm dashing outside to practice mando in the sun. Such a fun way to spend a Sunday.)

We should really just meet up. I'd been thinking that as I read through your profile (thanks for reminding me about [a local bakery's] cupcakes -- I still prefer Miette's chocolate with coffee buttercream icing, but [the local bakery] is far more convenient). But then I got to the [REDACTED] part: I think redaction jokes are strangely funny. Few people agree with me.

Although, I do have to clear one thing up, I'm a terrible napper. I'd just hate for things to start off with a misunderstanding.

Talk soon?

I made one mistake: I didn't really ask him about himself. But I felt so strongly that we should just get together for coffee, and I didn't want to drag out the email conversation. I wanted to get to know him in person.

Date: 4/12/09 11:23 PM
Subject: A million things

Interesting. What exactly does a terrible nap look like? Do you kick and twist? Do you snore? Do you fidget and get up and lie back down every five minutes? Are you also a terrible snuggler? spooner?

And I agree that Miette offers many things worth coveting, including their cupcakes. I certainly wouldn't kick them out of bed for eating crackers.

And I completely understand enjoying the sun. It is hard to resist, so I have been doing the same. Unfortunately, I'm headed out of town for a week or so, so perhaps we can figure something out next weekend or the week following?

I just noticed that he sent his email 12 hours after I sent mine. Odd.

Date: 4/13/09 9:44 PM
Subject: A million things

A terrible nap is more like a thwarted nap. When you lie down and think of all those studies that say you'll awake the most rested if you only sleep for 40 minutes, so you set your alarm for an hour, knowing it takes a while for you to fall asleep. Then you toss and turn for 55 minutes before finally falling asleep, only to be woken by your alarm 5 minutes later. I shudder thinking about it. I think that's why I love it so much when I can actually nap. I need to block off a whole afternoon, and then, I only ever actually fall asleep if I've done a really long run in the morning. That actually might be enough incentive to get me to do more long runs...

Aren't you glad you asked? ;)

Let's chat when you get back in town. I should be in town this weekend and next week.

He wrote back:

Date: 4/19/09 9:13 AM
Subject: A million things

Hey!

I'm very glad I asked! That's a great answer, although that counsels for more napping, not less. :)

Wanted to drop you a quick note to let you know that my week has gotten a bit crazy. It's the end of the semester and a lot of last minute things are landing on my plate (students wanting to meet to talk about projects, papers, graduating, etc.), so let me sort it out and be in touch about possible plans!

Even though he was putting it off, I did really appreciate that he let me know what was going on (and also reiterated that he'd like to hang out). I wrote back:

Date: 4/19/09 11:55 AM
Subject: A million things

Hi, J--

Thanks for writing. No worries at all. My schedule's been a bit crazy, too. (I'm playing for a friend's wedding next weekend, and I can barely eek out a night to practice.)

Good luck with the end of semester craziness.

Talk soon,
N

No response. Now that I reread my email, I wonder if the tone came off as brusque. I also didn't really return his reiteration of the "let's hang out" theme. Maybe I should email him again? Is that pathetic? I don't want to be like this guy, but then again, what do I have to lose?

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19Apr/091

Email 17, Date 4: Too much in common

Every day, OKCupid puts three guys in your Quiver. (Get it? Cupid? Bow and arrow? It's like they're arrows that you're going to...shoot at your own heart? The metaphor falls apart a bit there.) You check out their profile and photos and you can either write to them or say, "No, thanks." (And the OKCupid algorithm notes who you pass on and who you email to find you better matches in the future.)

I almost always find someone in my Quiver who's attractive and interesting. Reading S.'s profile, I wondered if the algorithm had created someone for me. Some highlights:

  • He likes music that's poppy and twangish
  • He likes talking politics and describes himself as a moderate who votes Democrat
  • He loves Scrabble
  • His favorite Beatle is Paul and favorite Monkee is Mickey
  • He listens to Benny Goodman, Big Star, Crowded House, and all sorts of other bands I thought I only listened to
  • HOWEVER, he was anti-serial comma. (For non-editors, the serial comma is the comma that comes before the "and" in a series of three or more items. Ex. peanut butter, bread, and jelly. Editors divide into two camps on the issue. Serious stuff.)

How could I not email him?

Date: 02/28/2009
Subject: I think we agree on everything but serial commas

Hey!

How can someone like all the goofy things that I do -- Scrabble, NYT crossword, twangy music, even Big Star and Benny Goodman -- and yet be averse to something that I hold so dear: the serial comma. (I have "pro-serial comma" as my religious affiliation in my Facebook profile.)

Actually, I don't know if that's a rhetorical question. How is that possible? The serial comma is at worst, harmless, and at best, helpful. My theory is that lawyers decided to abolish it so when they had their law firms' signs made, they would be one character cheaper.

He wrote back.

Date: 03/01/2009
Subject: I think we agree on everything but serial commas

Hey! My disdain for the serial comma started with the AP Stylebook and was encouraged by Vampire Weekend. Blame them. But some of my best friends (Strunk, White) are fans, and secretly I'm pleased if anyone cares enough about commas to have an opinion one way or another. (The only grammar thing that really, truly makes me blow my stack is when people stick apostrophe's in plural's for no reason. That makes me crazy.) Anyway, I don't think the comma thing should be an insurmountable obstacle.

We do seem to have an awful lot of things in common. I actually think I've seen you around -- perhaps in the Friends & Family area at Hardly Strictly?

I see Rhett Miller is playing at Yoshi's-SF soon. You going? If so, let me know and we can shake and howdy, as they say in the biz.

Gotta run. I'm supposed to play tennis with a friend at noon. Let's hope the rain holds off for a while. Thanks for writing! Ball's in your court now.

It turns out we both lived in Boston, both worked in publishing (he in newspapers, me in magazines and online), both covered music (we even knew a lot of the same publicists), both played mandolin in bluegrass bands (he only briefly). Weird.

He lives about 45 minutes south of me, so we split the distance when we met for coffee. The day we met up, I had a horrible attitude. Frustrated with Match and my resume date, which was the day before, I barely put on makeup, left a bit late, and grumbled to myself the entire half hour drive down.

But I had a great time. We had so much in common, and he was really nice to chat with. Newspaper people can be great to make small talk with. They put their interviewing skills to good use. After coffee, we walked around town a bit before hugging goodbye and pledging to hang out again.

Over the next week or so, we kept up a really nice email correspondence, then he invited me to see Throw Down Your Heart, the documentary about Bela Fleck's trip to Africa. We met up for dinner and went to see the late-ish movie.

Dinner was fun, and we had a great conversation. He asked me some really interesting questions (like, "Have you ever been married?" No. "Ever get close?"), and it was fun to actually talk about those things that you wonder about when you're getting to know someone who you might want to date.

Also, in the interest of full disclosure: I was super tired, so I may not have been as open or engaged as I could have been.

At the end of the night, I still wasn't feeling sparks. I really liked him, but I wanted him to be my friend, not my boyfriend. We were kind of too similar. Music and writing were both of our things. I know it sounds strange, but I like it when music is my thing and when the guy I'm dating has something else for his thing. I like being with someone who expands my horizons rather than consolidating them.

So I cowgirled up and emailed him (I maybe should have done it over the phone, but all our correspondence had been through email and text, so why break the pattern?). Among other friendly chattiness about music and concerts, I wrote:

I'm really enjoying hanging out with you, but I have to be honest and say that I see much more friend potential than romantic potential. I would really like to continue being friends and go see some shows together. But we did meet through a dating site, after all, so I absolutely understand if you're focused on finding someone to date right now and want to spend your energy on that.

I wanted to give him an out in case he didn't want to be friends. He wrote back, among other chattiness:

Friendship sounds nice. (Although that "much" was a bit harsh!) Thanks for being so honest and straighforward. I'll be sure to let you know when I have a +1 for a show down your way that I think you'd enjoy.

I totally didn't mean the "much"! (I wrote him back to tell him that and that I was glad he called me on it so I could clear that up!) That's what I get for hanging out with a fellow editor.

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7Apr/094

Email 14.1: Trust Your Instincts

I sensed that this guy was a little, um, high-maintenance from his overuse of ;o) smiley faces, the tone of his emails, and the frequency of his emails. Well, the story didn't end there. He sent me a follow-up email.

Subject: Hmmmm
Date: 3/14/09

You still around?

:O)

I didn't respond. I got another.

Subject: Hmmmm
Date: 4/1/09

So correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have SOME kind of dialogue started? Was kinda hoping to continue it, myself... And you?! :o)

Hope you're doing well...

In fact, I wasn't hoping to continue it. That's why I didn't respond. I know I'm going to sound like a hypocrite (hear me out), but I disagree with his characterization of our email exchange as a "dialogue." This is the blessing and the curse of online dating: someone can stop communicating as soon as they're not interested. Sure, I wish more guys on Match would write me back, but they don't because they don't consider me a good fit. No harm, no foul. Done. Next. But you can't take these individual rejections, for lack of a better word, personally. And you shouldn't be a glutton for punishment.

I wrote him back.

Subject: Hmmmm
Date: 4/1/09

Hi, [his name]--

You seem like a really nice guy and have a lot of good things going on in your life. The more I thought about it, it just didn't feel like you and I would be a good fit.

Good luck in your search!

Take care,
[My name]

Nothing really to say after that, right? Wrong.

Subject: Hmmmm
Date: 4/1/09

Well, I have to admit that I AM a little disappointed, but I DO understand... And yeah, I am SO beyond the "trying to fit a square peg into a round hole" phase of my life... Been there, done that.

Best of luck to you as well...

Take care,
[His name]

I'm glad I trusted my instincts here and didn't pursue even another email with this guy. He seems nice, however, if we met up even for coffee, I would regret it about five minutes into it. Plus, I suspect he'd be hard to shake after a break-up.

24Mar/092

Email 14: Smiley faces are not endearing

I'm 35. I'm beyond the age of smiley faces. Yet, I can see their purpose in email, text, IM, etc., when you don't have any body language or tone of voice to get your cues from. Sarcasm, for example, can just come across as bitchy if you don't follow it up with a :) or ;).

This guy's profile was chock-full of :O) smiley faces. I thought, maybe he's just trying to be cute or doesn't quite know what to say. He did have some thoughtful things, too, like how at our age, you just have to accept that everyone has baggage. It's the scars of living a life. That's maybe more eloquent than he put it. He's also a musician (plus) and lives on the peninsula (minus, but not dealbreaker). I wrote him.

Subject: Everyone does have baggage
Date: March 5

I loved the line in your profile about everyone having baggage and that it's silly to deny it. I had a friend once who, in college, said she never wanted to date any guys who hadn't been crushed (her word) because there's something valuable that you learn from that experience. And by the time you get to be an adult, it seems that if you haven't been hurt, you're either freakishly lucky or you just haven't been trying to find your person.

What's the cover band? A friend of mine and I used to dream about starting a cover band together. I envy people who know that many songs. (It's easy in bluegrass -- you only have three, sometimes four chords).

He wrote back about an hour later.

Date: March 5

I don't know what else to say except.... YUP! ;o)

Seriously, it was really kind and sweet of you to acknowledge what I had to say about the subject. I mean come on, puh-LEEEEEAZE! Right? And I HATE that we've all had to have been "crushed" to become this way, but I guess it is just "due process" at this point... Yeah, I think we ALL would've liked to have found the loves of our lives the first time out, but then you KNOW that most people who've done that might have been wondering, "Hmmm... Maybe I settled or should've found out a little MORE about myself first, huh?" I don't know... Just another "perspective" on the whole thing, I guess?! Oy...

The cover band would be [Funny name of band]. LOL! And when I think about it, yeah it is pretty staggering how many damn songs I've learned/played over the years?! Good to know I put the old noggin' to good use for SOMETHING, right?! Again, oy... LOL!

And I think it's WONDERFUL that you play Mandolin... I've always been kinda terrified of it with it's skinny little neck and different tuning and all... Hee!

Alrighty then... Enough of my ramblings for now... Thanks for "stalking" (as they call it here) for profile! Yours is wonderful, by the way... *Blush*

Ummmmmm. I didn't write back. He IM'd me on OKCupid a couple of days later.

Hey there... I'm assuming you got my reply to your note?

Whoops... Maybe you're away from the computer, oh well! Just wanted to say "hi"... Hope you have a wonderful day! I'm gettin' outside myself while the weather's so nice... See ya!

And then he emailed me again. With the ;0) smiley face. I know it sounds really lame to not be interested in a guy because of smiley faces, and let's be honest, that's not the reason why. There's just something about his energy that is really, really turning me off. I found his email exhausting to read. And the smiley faces are part of that.